Author Jill Lapore discusses new book, 'The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State'

NPR | By Michel Martin

Published August 25, 2026 at 4:44 AM EDT

NPR's Michel Martin speaks with Harvard professor and writer at the New Yorker Jill Lepore about her new book, "The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State."

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