Brennan Center CEO calls some of Trump's moves 'corrupt.' What can be done about it?

NPR | By Mary Louise Kelly,

Tyler Bartlam, Tinbete Ermyas

Published May 25, 2026 at 4:02 PM EDT

NPR's Mary Louise Kelly speaks to Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice, about recent moves from the Trump administration and why he thinks they amount to "epic corruption in plain sight."

Mary Louise Kelly

Mary Louise Kelly is a co-host of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine.

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