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Where are American Catholics on Trump's fight with the Pope?

NPR | By Tyler Bartlam,
Courtney Dorning, Ailsa Chang
Published April 13, 2026 at 4:48 PM EDT

NPR's Ailsa Chang speaks with conservative commentator and podcaster Michael Knowles about President Trump and Pope Leo XIV.

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Tyler Bartlam
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Courtney Dorning
Courtney Dorning has been a Senior Editor for NPR's All Things Considered since November 2018. In that role, she's the lead editor for the daily show. Dorning is responsible for newsmaker interviews, lead news segments and the small, quirky features that are a hallmark of the network's flagship afternoon magazine program.
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Ailsa Chang
Ailsa Chang is an award-winning journalist who hosts All Things Considered along with Ari Shapiro, Audie Cornish, and Mary Louise Kelly. She landed in public radio after practicing law for a few years.
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